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scsijon

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2018, 03:05:05 AM »
Nightly firefox problem.

I couldn't delete the ffox container through setup> sfsget, it gave warnings relating to RO files and directories and errored/bombed out. Finally got rid of it manually by firstly unloading it with  System> Bootmanager Configure bootup> Load extra SFS in containers button> Choose container to manage> and Delete Container (which brings up a easy missable and hard to read box, as it has no border and is the same colours as the page behind it)>  Easy Containers: delete box. This doesn't seem to actually delete the container or ffox's sfs, just the icon on jwm. You then still need to manually delete the ffox container under /containers and the ffox sfs from the sfs directory /sfs/easyos/oe/pyro to get rid of it. Since it was installed via sfsget I sort of expected to get rid of it the same way, maybe i'm just use to the way petget works too well.



SFSget is currently only for installation, it is not aware of anything already installed.

To manage existing containers, including deletion:

menu --> Filesystem --> Easy Container Management

I have used this several times over the last few days, to delete containers, and it has worked fine. It also handles currently-running containers.

Yeah, went that way with chromium and that went away cleanly, but the nightly ff wouldn't, suspect it's because of all the backlinks.

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2018, 08:56:15 PM »
Re: the dvd drive problem I commented on earlier.

If I have the drive closed with a dvd in when starting up, it's basically failingto load 99% of the time.
But if the dvd door is open (it's one of those narrow ones you manually shut), or if their is no dvd in the drive until after easy's jwm is loaded
I can shut the door/load a dvd and it picks up it's in and eventually loads.

I wonder if it's a driver timing problem? I shall pull a xerrs.log out later today and see if there is any help there.

> Yeah from a quick look at it, there are a few things in the xerrs.log that you may be interested in having a look at.
I'll attach it later in case it gives you clues on the other problems listed as I don't have a spare usb port to move it with on that box at present.
attached xerrs.log for you.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 03:13:36 AM by scsijon »

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2018, 01:16:31 AM »
Is that a usb dvd drive?

I have been using an internal "full size" dvd drive without issues.

Well, except that when I press the button on the drive to open the tray, it opens, then closes a few seconds later -- I have to pull the media out very quickly.

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2018, 01:22:53 AM »
Have been working on the SFS infrastructure, should have it "finalized" by 0.9.9, fingers crossed.

This morning I was sorting out how to handle when layers change in a container. In the main filesystem, this is handled reasonably well, that is, detection if, say, the devx sfs is inserted or removed. The init script in the initrd does some checking, a bit more after the switch_root. There are things that need to be fixed when the layers change.

This morning also, integrated NetworkManager so that it is part of the other managers (SNS, Frisabee, etc). That is, the old ones are not thrown out, so if you prefer one of those, they are still available.

And, have added ModemManager package, that works with NetworkManager.

scsijon

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2018, 03:20:25 AM »
Is that a usb dvd drive?

I have been using an internal "full size" dvd drive without issues.

Well, except that when I press the button on the drive to open the tray, it opens, then closes a few seconds later -- I have to pull the media out very quickly.

No an internal one, details and link for it are back on page1 - message2, it's the one on the right side of the manual.

I've had that near-immediate closing before when the drive hasn't properly 'turned the motor off' before opening the door. I think I remember that you put a wait in somewhere.

xerrs.log as promised attached in my post above.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 03:22:00 AM by scsijon »

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2018, 05:15:37 AM »
@ Barry

thank you very much for refining the initial password managing which seems to work fine in EasyOs 0.9.8 also on non-US keyboards!

However, fine-tuning of the keyboard-layout still proves to be tricky and to result in unexpected effects. As for the sg (Swiss German) layout, using the Quick Setup manager, the appropriate layout can be selected which alas only works correctly in the main desktop, the containerised Seamonkey (www), and in the containerised console (sakura) but not in the containerised desktop and the containerised xenialpup! In the latter ones (despite basically the sg layout is set) the right alt key - usually used as third-level chooser - initially shows no effect, and all my attempts at fine-tuning via the XKB-manager seem to confuse the container management in a manner which I so far cannot fully understand. If I'm able to activate one of the alt keys as third-level chooser, the containerised desk may freeze and no longer respond to the alt-F6 command. In the containerised xenialpup, attempts at using the XKB manager are responded by an error message (your xorg.conf file does not contain any XkbLayout options!). Sometimes, after unsuccessfully fiddling with the XKB manager, simultaneously pressing 'left alt-2' combination (actually intending to activate @) results in flipping back to the main desktop.

Furthermore, after entering the desk- or xenialpup-container and flipping back via pressing alt-F6, these applications appear as little squares in the applet-tray, remaining there until they are closed manually (right mouse button). Clicking the left mouse button relaunches the containerised applications.

In summary, different containers seem to use different - partially interfering - keyboard-layout settings.

sorry for being unable to better explain the above-mentioned issues!

 

« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 05:18:11 AM by lp-dolittle »

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2018, 09:03:54 AM »
@ Barry,

after I read your most recent post on bkhome.org/news/, I'm asking myself how far the (above-mentioned) different keyboard-layout handling in various containers might be due to the 'layer-handling' issue whose elimination already seems to be on your to-do list.

kind regards

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2018, 06:09:22 PM »
Is that a usb dvd drive?

I have been using an internal "full size" dvd drive without issues.

Well, except that when I press the button on the drive to open the tray, it opens, then closes a few seconds later -- I have to pull the media out very quickly.

See message 3 above first.

Interesting, I carried out the /usr/local/easy_containers/ec-chroot modification too see how it went and test it.

However, as a side effect, this cdrom problem seems to have dissapeared, it is now quite happy to show the cdrom drive with a cdrom in it . I shall reboot and shutdown/startup again later and see if it's really gone away, but with 20 reboots I thnk it may have. I wonder why.

The problems shown in the xerrs.log (now in ?6 messages above) are still appearing though.

EDIT1: and that dissapearing cdrom icon has reapeared, rightclick on cdrom icon and the icon dissapears with nothing happening to the cdrom.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2018, 08:50:02 PM by scsijon »

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2018, 08:52:27 PM »
new problem.

How do I open a rpm to see what's inside?

I can install it (even if I don't want too), but not open it to see the content.

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2018, 01:48:04 AM »
To install easyos on my micro SD card in my netbook is an issue, when an another linux distro is installed on the internal harddrive (sda1,sda2) of my netbook. That means the installation fails because during boot up it reads also the internal hard drive. Although it is ext4. To install easyos on my micro SD card, on my netbook, I have tot format the internal hard drive (sda1, ext4). That means, the linux distr on hard drive is gone. When done, easyos can be installed on my micro SD card in my netbook. What did I do wrong?

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2018, 05:36:25 PM »
Finally found time to test 0.9.8. Installed to usb to test.

Initial boot same issues as 0.9.7 it boots to a black screen with a cursor (not even blinking) in top left corner. Also keyboard unresponsive. I hard rebooted to commandline and ran xorgwizard to set intel but nothing changed.

Reinstalled to usb and on initial boot went direct to commandline. In both cases I left password blank. Ran xorgwizard, same result. Rebooted to commandline and this time manually renamed 20-intel-sna.confDISABLED to 20-intel-sna.conf.

Rebooted and it went to a desktop (sort of) telling me that my pinboard is probably an old version. No icons except drives all stacked on top of each other. I remember this also happening with 0.9.7.

Ran internet connection wizard and chose frisbee and no wireless networks found at all. Tried other option and same thing.

That's as far as I got.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2018, 05:42:12 PM by nevarmaor »

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2018, 03:10:46 AM »
Finally found time to test 0.9.8. Installed to usb to test.

Initial boot same issues as 0.9.7 it boots to a black screen with a cursor (not even blinking) in top left corner. Also keyboard unresponsive. I hard rebooted to commandline and ran xorgwizard to set intel but nothing changed.

Reinstalled to usb and on initial boot went direct to commandline. In both cases I left password blank. Ran xorgwizard, same result. Rebooted to commandline and this time manually renamed 20-intel-sna.confDISABLED to 20-intel-sna.conf.

Rebooted and it went to a desktop (sort of) telling me that my pinboard is probably an old version. No icons except drives all stacked on top of each other. I remember this also happening with 0.9.7.

Ran internet connection wizard and chose frisbee and no wireless networks found at all. Tried other option and same thing.

That's as far as I got.

Awkward situation!

It looks like you need to get it to use the 20-intel-sna.conf at first bootup of the pristine system.

So, booting up a new pristine usb with Easy 0.9.8, choose to stop at commandline, not run X.

Once at the commandline:

# mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel-sna.confDISABLED /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel-sna.conf
# xorgwizard

...then choose Intel driver.

If I recall rightly though, I thought that I had already implemented that choice in Xorg Wizard, to use SNS or UXA acceleration for Intel.
If that is the case, you wouldn't have to do the "mv".

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2018, 03:56:13 AM »
Many time LAN (static wired ) not getting internet connection. In some occasion firefox will have internet connection and other browsers not having. Anyway internet connection is not  stable at all. I have deleted  chromium SFS as advised by Barry Sir and tried to install again through SFS package manger. However, not able to install due to some error. After some trail and error I have install chromium in the container after download the same again. Why download required again?. If required,  is it possible to  install program with SFS file without container option in Easyos ?.  Sometime SFS packet manager shows some errors. Is it due to lack of internet connection or some other technical glitches ?.  Waiting eagerly for  Easyos 0.9.9
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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2018, 06:25:49 PM »
Barry, that is exactly what I ended up doing. After that I could get to a desktop but that's when I get the message about obsolete rox pinboard.

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Re: EasyOS version 0.9.8 released
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2018, 03:01:21 AM »
1. Using radeon driver xine playing videos is very jerky
Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
vo_vdpau: Can't create vdp device : No vdpau implementation.
libva info: VA-API version 1.1.0
libva info: va_getDriverName() returns -1
libva error: va_getDriverName() failed with unknown libva error,driver_name=(null)

2 Plugging in an sd card it isnt recognized until I type lspci
Then an icon appears on the desktop although it doesnt go away when the card is removed.

07:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5227 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)

This might be kernel config see here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=1009514#1009514
and next few posts

3 If you want pupradio with audacious added to players, its attached